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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://thegivinghands.org/environment/use-less-plastic#comment-1806</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Green Film is both landfill degradable (it passed ASTM 5511) and compostable (it passed ASTM 5338.98). It means it can degrade both anaerobically, without oxygen (required for anything in a landfill) and aerobically, with oxygen, (required for composting).I believe we should be using plastics that are landfill degradable as opposed to compostable (which will not degrade in backyard composts according to what I have learned. They are based on the standard ASTM 6400 which cites composting in commercial and municipal composts.) We do not have enough composting facilities in the US and everyone believes compostable plastics will degrade in the the landfills. It is a HUGE lie. Articles I base my info on for the pollution is "Gulf pays Price for ethanol; scientists expect dead zone, blame farm waste from corn" Bloomberg News July, 2007 and the Salt Lake tribune, May 2006. Also food costs have increased as farmers are growing corn for ethanol and plastics as opposed to cattle feed. I have heard they amount to 12% since last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Green Film is both landfill degradable (it passed ASTM 5511) and compostable (it passed ASTM 5338.98). It means it can degrade both anaerobically, without oxygen (required for anything in a landfill) and aerobically, with oxygen, (required for composting).I believe we should be using plastics that are landfill degradable as opposed to compostable (which will not degrade in backyard composts according to what I have learned. They are based on the standard ASTM 6400 which cites composting in commercial and municipal composts.) We do not have enough composting facilities in the US and everyone believes compostable plastics will degrade in the the landfills. It is a HUGE lie. Articles I base my info on for the pollution is &#8220;Gulf pays Price for ethanol; scientists expect dead zone, blame farm waste from corn&#8221; Bloomberg News July, 2007 and the Salt Lake tribune, May 2006. Also food costs have increased as farmers are growing corn for ethanol and plastics as opposed to cattle feed. I have heard they amount to 12% since last year.</p>
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		<title>By: PlanetThoughts</title>
		<link>http://thegivinghands.org/environment/use-less-plastic#comment-1805</link>
		<dc:creator>PlanetThoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Life Less Plastic.  Is that your stage name?  Just joking, I like it.

Yes, labeling does sound like an excellent, helpful idea.  As the level of awareness gradually increases, and finally reaches political leaders, I believe we are likely to have either laws for compostability (where possible), or prior to that happening at least labeling about compostability and biodegradability.  The value of it, as in food labeling, is that the manufacturers know all the details of their products.  After a modest, fixed expense they can create the appropriate labeling, after which millions of people immediately have useful information that otherwise would be effectively impossible to determine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Life Less Plastic.  Is that your stage name?  Just joking, I like it.</p>
<p>Yes, labeling does sound like an excellent, helpful idea.  As the level of awareness gradually increases, and finally reaches political leaders, I believe we are likely to have either laws for compostability (where possible), or prior to that happening at least labeling about compostability and biodegradability.  The value of it, as in food labeling, is that the manufacturers know all the details of their products.  After a modest, fixed expense they can create the appropriate labeling, after which millions of people immediately have useful information that otherwise would be effectively impossible to determine.</p>
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		<title>By: Life Less Plastic</title>
		<link>http://thegivinghands.org/environment/use-less-plastic#comment-1800</link>
		<dc:creator>Life Less Plastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!  You touch for a short moment on the idea of labeling things "compostable."  This is something that doesn't usually happen in the U.S., but I think it would be amazing if companies started labeling their products for whether they can be composted or not. As somebody who composts, it would be amazing to know, without a doubt, whether or not something is safe to throw in the bin.  And, of course, having labeling like that would also pressure companies to develop more environmentally-friendly packaging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  You touch for a short moment on the idea of labeling things &#8220;compostable.&#8221;  This is something that doesn&#8217;t usually happen in the U.S., but I think it would be amazing if companies started labeling their products for whether they can be composted or not. As somebody who composts, it would be amazing to know, without a doubt, whether or not something is safe to throw in the bin.  And, of course, having labeling like that would also pressure companies to develop more environmentally-friendly packaging.</p>
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		<title>By: PlanetThoughts</title>
		<link>http://thegivinghands.org/environment/use-less-plastic#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator>PlanetThoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leslie, thanks for the comment.  I think you have the same problem I have even with a long article - we are talking about a very complex topic.  You mention that "Green Film" bags are biodegradable - so, are they also compostable?  That is the more important terminology.  All compostable materials are by definition biodegradable, as I understand it, but definitely not the other way around.  As far as corn-based compostables, are you sure they are polluting the aquifers?  They are in very limited production and use right now compared to many other substances such as fertilizers and pesticides.

As far as using more fossily fuels than plastic to produce - first, that is an argument to reduce usage of everything within reason.  That should always be the first term, as in the mantra "Reduce, reuse, recycle" (in that order of preference).  However, I would like to see your source of information which is implying that it is better to make plastic than compostables from a global warming viewpoint.  Please post it here if you can still locate it.  The problem is that many such accountings omit issues such as disposal overhead, long-term toxic chemical residue, and other factors.

All that being said, I understand that the world has a lot to learn... we all need to know more about what substitutes exist for plastic.  To what degree are they good for all the other applications of plastic beyond tableware and bags?  Of this I am sure, however: plastics are highly destructive of the environment.  We need to promote knowledge about, and production and use (when necessary) of organically created and destructible items instead of plastic versions.  We need both short-term and long-term solutions.  Any voice with some information in this goal, is welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie, thanks for the comment.  I think you have the same problem I have even with a long article - we are talking about a very complex topic.  You mention that &#8220;Green Film&#8221; bags are biodegradable - so, are they also compostable?  That is the more important terminology.  All compostable materials are by definition biodegradable, as I understand it, but definitely not the other way around.  As far as corn-based compostables, are you sure they are polluting the aquifers?  They are in very limited production and use right now compared to many other substances such as fertilizers and pesticides.</p>
<p>As far as using more fossily fuels than plastic to produce - first, that is an argument to reduce usage of everything within reason.  That should always be the first term, as in the mantra &#8220;Reduce, reuse, recycle&#8221; (in that order of preference).  However, I would like to see your source of information which is implying that it is better to make plastic than compostables from a global warming viewpoint.  Please post it here if you can still locate it.  The problem is that many such accountings omit issues such as disposal overhead, long-term toxic chemical residue, and other factors.</p>
<p>All that being said, I understand that the world has a lot to learn&#8230; we all need to know more about what substitutes exist for plastic.  To what degree are they good for all the other applications of plastic beyond tableware and bags?  Of this I am sure, however: plastics are highly destructive of the environment.  We need to promote knowledge about, and production and use (when necessary) of organically created and destructible items instead of plastic versions.  We need both short-term and long-term solutions.  Any voice with some information in this goal, is welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: pelf-ism is contagious</title>
		<link>http://thegivinghands.org/environment/use-less-plastic#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>pelf-ism is contagious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Is polystyrene tasty?&lt;/strong&gt;

Psst&#8230;
Today’s &#8220;Save the Ocean&#8221; post is on using less plastic. Go read it   
A week ago I highlighted a news article which reported that a certain premiere university in Malaysia has adopted a &#8220;go green&#8221; concept and decid...</description>
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<p>Psst&#8230;<br />
Today’s &#8220;Save the Ocean&#8221; post is on using less plastic. Go read it<br />
A week ago I highlighted a news article which reported that a certain premiere university in Malaysia has adopted a &#8220;go green&#8221; concept and decid&#8230;</p>
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